Introductions and Intentions – Radio Research

  • Introductions and Intentions – Radio Research

  • MCC Community Admin

    Organizer
    July 30, 2021 at 1:24 pm

    Please introduce yourself and share what you’d hope to get out of participating in this group.

  • Susan “SusanLily”

    Member
    August 26, 2021 at 6:20 pm

    Greetings. I do not (yet) have a radio but am curious and interested to learn more how this method works.

    • Zenka

      Moderator
      August 30, 2021 at 10:19 pm

      So excited to have you in on the experiment. I have been doing it since last August – which makes it a year now and it has been mind blowing! They are so emotional.

    • GalacticRose

      Moderator
      September 4, 2021 at 5:44 am

      I love it! I have been ‘radio curious’ for a while! The conference inspired me to get them and the arrived tonight! 😀

      This is a super cool platform to learn a lot about them!

  • Leon

    Member
    August 27, 2021 at 5:42 am

    I’m planning on getting my first HAM radio!! Wish me luck

    • Zenka

      Moderator
      August 30, 2021 at 10:19 pm

      Great let us now if you can’t find the info on which to buy etc.

  • GalacticRose

    Moderator
    August 27, 2021 at 7:05 am

    Radio Research has been fascinating to learn about! Here is a video of Mark Sims doing the Faraday experiment with the radios. They keep working even when in multiple bags! 2021-02-11 Radio Journal: Faraday Cage Experiment https://vimeo.com/511418639

    • Jon

      Member
      August 29, 2021 at 3:55 pm

      Very compelling! I have some questions.

      1. Do the radios have allowable frequency tolerances? For example when a a radio is tuned to 144.100 MHz does that mean it’s exactly that frequency or could there be micro frequency variations that differentiate each receiver but fall within the range of 144.1 etc. what I’m getting at is maybe the signal are coming back in very small bandwidth that only that radio seems to be tuned to (say 144.10005 etc)

      2. I’m new to this but believe HAM radio operators must frequently broadcast call signs to identify source of transmission. Since I haven’t seen Mark do that is it possible the pulses received are coming from other HAM operators or FCC triangulation systems trying to identify the source of his broadcasts? I’ve read they actively do this to root out unlicensed operators.

      • seanlogan

        Member
        August 29, 2021 at 10:56 pm

        Excellent points Jon.

        Has anyone tried these experiments inside a Faraday Cage? I was doing some RF work, and I put the gear inside a steel shipping container to prevent spurious emissions. I think a shipping container works pretty well as a Faraday Cage. I have also used the shielded, anechoic chamber at the local state university’s engineering building. There may be similar facilities available at a college near you.

        I would like to encourage anyone conducting these radio experiments to take the license exam and get your Ham Radio license. My call sign is KG7ARW; I have a General Class license. It is technically illegal to transmit on the ham bands without a license. Studying for the exam will also teach you some fundamentals of radio, proper operating procedure, etc.

        You may transmit on the CB bands without a license, which are around 27-28 MHz. For this you will need a CB radio. I think there is also an unlicensed slice of the spectrum called “Family Radio Service” which is for walkie talkies, you can use.

        The ARRL provides “band plans” which you may want to look at, to see which slice of the 2-meter band is appropriate for experimental/digital modes.

        If you key up on 144MHz, and transmit an image encoded as audio, it is only natural to expect a human being to respond.

        • Zenka

          Moderator
          August 30, 2021 at 10:27 pm

          @seanlogan Sorry @jlorbz I didn’t realize that Sean had already answered your question here!

      • Zenka

        Moderator
        August 30, 2021 at 10:26 pm

        Hey @jlorbz

        1. I put my radio at 144.101 by the way. I believe it to be really exact since these are digital, but we would have to ask someone else. I can keep that in mind when we speak to experts and if you know any ask them and we can keep this as a question.

        2. Yes you need a license to transmit (but not to listen) on 144.101. So keep that in mind. In my experience I have not needed to broadcast to get a response. If you put your radio on 144.100 You are officially in the morse code channel – which it is my understanding nobody is using much in modern times. So you are not likely to interfere with other people, but technically you do need a liscense. I did go through the trouble to get a liscense because I believe very strongly this research is going to produce big results. I will start a thread with more information on how to do that.

        • seanlogan

          Member
          August 31, 2021 at 1:24 am

          People still do use Morse code, especially in contests, for DX (distant contact) because it travels far, and for QRP (low power transmission). Most of this is on the HF bands, I believe (3-30MHz).

          @zenka, can you describe some of the transmissions you have received since April, and what about them causes you to suspect that they come from a non-terrestrial source?

        • Jon

          Member
          August 31, 2021 at 2:56 am

          Thanks for the info @zenka . Hoping maybe at some point there’s a thread with some info (background requirements, cost etc.) on getting licensed. I’ve done some research but seems they’re a lot of pay services instead of getting right to the point.

  • Preston

    Member
    August 28, 2021 at 2:27 am

    So many interesting groups. I’m here to learn and also offer help in any way that I can. Its been a long time. But I used to love to listen to number stations in the 70s and early 80s. I know its not the same thing. But I do hope to learn more about this.

  • Mike

    Member
    August 29, 2021 at 4:51 am

    Greetings! I have two of the 8 watt Baofeng radios and so far so good. I am also currently studying for a ham license as well.

    • GalacticRose

      Moderator
      August 29, 2021 at 8:27 am

      Hey Mike! What does it take to get a HAM license?

  • Roy

    Member
    August 29, 2021 at 9:42 am

    I’m a ham ve1ptn and my advice is if you want to get the positive effect of the phenomenon you need to have two radios otherwise you do not know if your radio is the only one receiving the transmission.

  • Veronica

    Member
    August 29, 2021 at 8:15 pm

    That was an awesome experience, thank you. How do you then decipher the message from out there?

    • Zenka

      Moderator
      August 30, 2021 at 10:50 pm

      We don’t know yet. They seem to be very emotional and pointed during certain times. I have tried to run it through morse code but not working yet. Maybe the speed is important. We are also sending them pictures and not sure if they can send those back. I sometimes can get them to answer multiple choice questions which is fascinating.

  • seanlogan

    Member
    August 29, 2021 at 11:04 pm

    It would be interesting the record the incoming transmissions using a Software Defined Radio. I know Ettus makes some nice ones. Then you could take your time looking at the signal you received. What kind of modulation was used? Is the signal a known, human, digital mode, like FSK? If not, then you could subject it to analysis of various sorts. Maybe use GNU radio. Try to see if there is some structure in the signal.

    Also, if you can demonstrate that a radio can receive signals inside a real, proper, Faraday Cage, that would be a big deal. That would definitely get the attention of some electrical engineers.

    • Zenka

      Moderator
      August 30, 2021 at 10:51 pm

      @seanlogan YESSSSSSS! Lets try this! Let me know if you figure out which to buy. John Ramirez might be able to help us with this. I will email him right now.

  • Tyler

    Member
    September 2, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    Hey everyone,

    It is great to share our experiences with you all!

    Check out the YouTube video below to see an example of the radio feedback we receive during our field expeditions :

    This footage was filmed at Mt. Shasta! 👽🛸

  • Tyler

    Member
    September 2, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    Beautiful shot from our good friend Eddie Frye, of our Contact team here in Southern California! 👽

  • Tezjbar

    Member
    September 2, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    Hello! I’ve been working with radios with my friend Jimmy Blanchette for almost 2 years. I started filming myself doing experiments using the radios. Here is one of the first. Enjoy! 💙👽💙

    • GalacticRose

      Moderator
      September 3, 2021 at 11:10 am

      It’s really the facial expression on this one that is so inviting! Inspiring! 🤩

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